Vote next week ??

There is going to be a vote in the commons next week on the validity of sending the boat people to RWANDA , There is speculation if sunaky loses the vote there could be a snap general election ( can't wait) how do you think the vote will go ?????
GB

Just thinking ahead of possible outcomes……,If Sunak is ousted anytime in the near future will the ‘boat people’ stop being a problem GB?……or will it be left to whoever takes Sunaks place?

They will win it

GB
Remember when Boris pulled out of a vote when ho thought he would lose it, might be the same on Tuesday rushi will pull it he it looks like he will lose,his jobs on the line

Surfer Tom

Are you on about a vote there was to be before he won his 80 seat majority in 2019 ?

Tts
Remember Boris pulled a vote then changed it a few days later to satisfy the doubters then he won it ,not sure what it was about

Tories can't lose can they
Theive got a majority

Didn't stop them losing last week, did it. link

Handsomeminer

It depends on how many Tory MPs rebel against the Party Whip, and vote against the bill, from what is happening there seems to be a rebellion growing in the Tory Party against Sunak, because the consensus seems to be that the new immigration bill will not succeed in allowing the flights to Rwanda to take place, because the ECHR will still be able to stop the flights from taking place.

You have a tory party and prime minister who should be governing the people when they can't even govern their self..... And these are the ones who said leaving the EU would be a great idea

This has nothing to do with RWANDA it's only got to do with the right of the party trying to keep there seat in the up coming general election .....

If Sunak is ousted the pound will drop throw the floor......

Well i guess it will depend on just how many actual members vote for what they and their constituants expect of them , or to put it wiganese ,,
"How many have got the BALLS ""If they follow the trends of lining their own pockets and NOT thinking about teh COUNTRY then it will go thro ,oth erwise like everything else "The Sheep Will Follow the Leader""
G.B.

Don't think it will make much difference he's now less popular than lizz truss Torys split

No matter what you think about the small boats, I am surprised that no one on here has commented upon the PM using the law to alter the status of fact: ie to legally enforce a falsehood to be regarded as fact.

Even Lord Sumption ( Former Justice of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom) who strongly supports it called it a law asserting that black is white. It has also been compared to having a law to declare 'All dogs are cats'.

Very Orwellian!

The sort of thing despots do.


“I have never heard of them trying to change the facts, by law. For as long as black isn’t white, the business of passing acts of parliament to say that it is profoundly discreditable.” Sumption

In my opinion the the illegal immigrants should be sent to Rwanda as soon as possible. Maybe it will act as a deterrent to other wannabe scroungers who are thinking of making the journey here and they will think twice about making their holiday destination here!

They say they have fleed from unsafe countries, so Rwanda will be paradise for them!
Hang on though, it may depend on what benefits the freeloaders can obtain from the Rwandan government. That could have a big say in it

See rushi swear his oath was it on the bible, a solicitor in wigan .told me bloke came in her office who Told a pack of lies , he told her the bible meant nothing to him,He said if it had been the Koran he woul have told the truth , she kicked him out

Surfer Tom

Rishi Sunak swore an oath to Bhagavadgita at the Covid enquiry, because he is an Hindoo LINK

Rishi Sunak is a Hindu. Why would he swear on the bible?
Members of the Hindu faith will omit the words “I swear by Almighty God” and substitute the words “I swear by Gita”.

They all P in't same pot...Nothing will change...either Tory or labour..they are all in it for what they can get out of it . Golden handshakes...back handers..marvellous pensions and pay offs..but Hey....put a monkey up in a red tie and he/she will get in in Wigan...why ? Because my grandad...dad..and aunt Sally always voted labour.....thicker than Pig S***.

What's the alternative B&B another 4 years of Tory mismanagement

4 years of the other Tory Party!

Please explain OC

Handsomeminer

Surely, you are not one of those people who still thinks that Labour is a Socialist Party?

No just a lot better than this bunch of lying,self serving,spiv s who have ruined this country over the last 13 years,OC can you name something the Tories have improved over the last 13 years?

Rwanda Bill has passed its second reading with a majority of 44

Never in doubt it was vote about Tories maintaining credibility nothing to to with Rwanda

I see Miss Nandy didn't vote



LINK

If labour get in what will they do to combat the problem of illegal immigrants..,.. write your answers on a postage stamp.

Rwanda Rwanda Rwanda !!!! Before i start some new project or cook new food i google it or watch a video ...... between 2014 and 2017 Israel tried the Rwanda thing

Israel to Pay Rwanda $5,000 for Every Deported Asylum Seeker It Takes In
In addition to the payment to the Rwandan government, Israel will continue to pay asylum seekers $3,500 and their airfare if they leave voluntarily

Israel sent several thousand people to Rwanda and Uganda under a contentious and secretive “voluntary” scheme between 2014 and 2017. Few are believed to have remained there, with many trying to reach Europe.

Taken from a local news papers









Asylum seekers part of 'voluntary' deportation.
Sometimes they are threatened and all their money is stolen from them upon landing. They are transferred to smugglers who, in return for hundreds or sometimes thousands of dollars, send them to Uganda. From there they are transferred in a similar fashion to South Sudan, to Sudan and on to Libya, from where they try to cross the Mediterranean Sea to Europe.

what awaits them upon reaching Rwanda and Uganda were not kept. Instead of access to official claims of asylum and work permits, upon landing in Rwanda their travel documents were taken from them. None of them could access application possibilities to claim asylum. Thus, deprived of any official documents, they were exposed to robbery, threats and imprisonment. They were forced to proceed on to life-threatening journey across South Sudan, Sudan and Libya while seeking shelter. On their way they suffered trafficking in person, imprisonment, the threat of being forcibly returned back to Eritrea, harsh conditions of hunger, violence and slave-labor in Libya’s torture camps, as well as a perilous crossing of the Mediterranean Sea from Libya to Europe. They described a perilous journey permeated with an all-encompassing fear of death haunted by imminent death. Many witnessed the death of fellow travelers during the crossing of the Sahara Desert, in the torture camps in Libya and as they drowned in the Mediterranean. Among the dead were others who had those who left Israel “voluntarily.”

[In Rwanda] “Three days after our arrival, this man picked us up from the airport told us, ‘you must leave for Uganda’. I asked where are our documents and why must we leave? – He said that we must.”

still think it's a good idea ???? OR a deterrent???? they will all just come back to the UK.....

First Mate ,
That was the first thing i saw this morning .Nandy pandy Abstained , surely she could and probably voted for one or the other i perticulary do not like
Abstainers. I just hope the poeple of Wigan do the same at the Genral Election ,and abstain .
G.B.

First Mate ,
That was the first thing i saw this morning .Nandy pandy Abstained , surely she could and probably voted for one or the other i perticulary do not like
Abstainers. I just hope the poeple of Wigan do the same at the Genral Election ,and abstain .
G.B.

Number crunching .


£290 M.
U K government payments to Rwanda ,dressed up as an "economic transformation and integration fund ".
But really inducements to sign up to asylum scheme . .
£26 m.
CUT in U K aid last year for the neighbouring Democratic Republic of the congo
,which has 60 m people living in extreme poverty compared to Rwanda 2 M.

Congo has been pressing for Rwanda to be classed as a terrorist state, on grounds that it offers safe haven to groups who cross over the border to commit murders.

Golden Bear

"i saw this morning .Nandy pandy Abstained , surely she could and probably voted for one or the other"

She might have been 'paired'

Ena...